Curse

daze · Oct 05, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Having both LDoA and Survivor potentially increasing the title count doesn't devalue the title - LDoA is harder than at least 30 other titles and won't become a choice for 'easier GWAMM'.

Umm I hope you aren't implying that LDoA and Survivor can both be obtained on one character. You cant be implying that. But if you know something that i don't about how a character can achieve both, please enlighten me.

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

At a conservative 30 chests per hour it take 333 hours to max treasure hunter. If you don't decrease the cap of TH it doesn't matter which toon you run the chest on and the total time grind for this title will not be eased. You will get a few random chest added to your title you happen upon while playing if it was account based which only will add up to 1% - 3% as I pointed out in my other post.

I think you are missing a factor. regardless how many hours it takes to get TH title, 333 or 999, it would be done faster if made account based. Thus reducing Grind. (you have played 666 hours on this character as opposed to you have played 3,666 hours on the account)

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Originally Posted by Daft Shifty

wtf is ovaltine... sounds like somewhat rounded piss-water

That is exactly what it is. Except with chocolate flavoring.

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

Dude you lie. You shelve a toon because he may pass by two chests while doing a mission? Be honest man the bs is getting too deep in this thread.

Here we are on page 18 and your posts are starting to reek of desperation.

Im sure he is talking about "shelving" a character because it is not his GWAMM character. And the point is you shouldn't have to pass by a chest just because you are not on your TH character.
You may not grasp the concept, but when you deliberately bypass any beneficial object in the game just because you are not on the right character, it puts a pinprick in your brain as to why you are even bothering playing on that toon.

Kashrlyyk · Oct 05, 2008, 09:36 AM // 09:36

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Doing all the quests, that reward Kurzick points, once nets you 2-3% of the max title. That is with the double reward you get for donating them.

Sorry, this was the number I remember, but I checked again and to make it completly clear: After doing all the Kurzick quests once with all 8 characters, you have gained 2.72% of the max title. Again with the double point reward you get for donating.

Daenara · Oct 05, 2008, 10:20 AM // 10:20

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Originally Posted by daze

Umm I hope you aren't implying that LDoA and Survivor can both be obtained on one character. You cant be implying that. But if you know something that i don't about how a character can achieve both, please enlighten me.

There are a few people with both titles, as a result of a few different glitches in pre.

daze · Oct 05, 2008, 10:43 AM // 10:43

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Originally Posted by Daenara

There are a few people with both titles, as a result of a few different glitches in pre.

Wow so only a glitch will allow you to become a presearing survivor? There isn't any chance that you know what that glitch may be?
From what i know, there is no way to get past lvl 15 without death leveling. And doing all of the quests once you reach lvl 15 will only get you barely to lvl 17.

Maybe its a repeatable quest glitch. Ill have to google it

Yawgmoth · Oct 05, 2008, 12:09 PM // 12:09

That glitch was fixed long ago. No more survivors in pre.

stiffler · Oct 05, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by Mister_Smiley

She said that one possible change will be the treasure/wisdom to account based

This Might help me get GWAMM sooner, 3 titles short, well see how it plays out.

I hope the current amounts of different characters will stack.

Mr. Undisclosed · Oct 05, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by daze

Maybe its a repeatable quest glitch. Ill have to google it

I think thats what it was. All I remember of it was that it was in the catacombs. But like Yawg said that exploit was closed a while ago.

Zeek Aran · Oct 05, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by Teutonic Paladin

Or a reset xp and deaths button

Yesyesyesyesyes.

Heloniar · Oct 05, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Forgot to mention this in my last two posts....
What? I'm actually liked now? O.o

What did I finally do right?

I'm losing interest in arguing over the rest, my stubbornness is finally at it's end... I thought it was impossible to happen.

you made a post that completely ripped apart nvmu's opinions, and I say "opinions" loosely. they're more like rock hard stubborness mixed with idiocy.

To Lordhenious- don't bother trying to argue with nvmu, he got a closed mind. His type is usually WOW type personality who think heavy grind based mmos blows the **** out of the water in terms of MMOs out there.

I believe ONLY acheivement titles(game progression) should be allowed in GW2, no more of this pvp/ buyable or rep grind ones.. as Azazel said.

Shadowspawn X · Oct 05, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by daze

I think you are missing a factor. regardless how many hours it takes to get TH title, 333 or 999, it would be done faster if made account based. Thus reducing Grind. (you have played 666 hours on this character as opposed to you have played 3,666 hours on the account)

I'm not missing any factors at all. You are missing the skill of reading comprehension. As evidenced by ridiculously quoting a statement from me where I clearly pointed out that grind is eliminated by account wide TH and preceding to explain to me that grind is eliminated by account-wide TH title. My position in this discussion once again for the remedial audience is account wide TH doesn't eliminate enough grind to be worth implementing. Reducing the max from 10,000 would be a better solution than account wide. Learn to read please.

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Originally Posted by daze

Im sure he is talking about "shelving" a character because it is not his GWAMM character. And the point is you shouldn't have to pass by a chest just because you are not on your TH character.

Passing by the chest is a self imposed limitation. You are not forced to pass up chests you can just open them and develop the toon you are on at the moment. Since people claim that their play style is multiple characters they would be playing the character they are on to the fullest if that was actually true. That position is like saying why doesn't doing a mission on my derv give me protector points on my monk! Its just a horribly failed point of view however popular it seems to be.

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Originally Posted by daze

You may not grasp the concept, but when you deliberately bypass any beneficial object in the game just because you are not on the right character, it puts a pinprick in your brain as to why you are even bothering playing on that toon.

I grasp the concept alright if someone is so obsessed with getting TH that the mental anguish experienced while passing by a chest on a secondary character is so painfully psychologically devastating that they vow never to play said character again. That person has got mental issues. I don't think the guy has those mental issues but was hugely exaggerating his pain hoping that someone would then empathize with his position much like a young child trying to manipulate his mother. I was merely letting him know try again with some serious discussion instead of "Boo hoo hoo! Feel sorry for me and let me have what I want".

daze · Oct 05, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

I grasp the concept alright if someone is so obsessed with getting TH that the mental anguish experienced while passing by a chest on a secondary character is so painfully psychologically devastating that they vow never to play said character again. That person has got mental issues.

Jeez talk about blown out of proportion. You took what i said and multiplied it by 10k. But whatever, Im not even going to bother responding to the first part of your post because it is all totally argumentative.

However i will one more time try to illustrate why making TH account based would reduce the grind. If you still dont see it after this then it is hopeless to even try anymore to bring any ray of light to a person who is either too stubborn to see another point of view, or just plain dumb.

I have 12 characters one of which is PvP. so lets say i just have 11 characters. I play on my ele mainly and my ele is an elite Treasure hunter with 2,757 chests opened towards TH title (with not one second of grind involved towards TH title)... My Derv is an expert TH with 1,653 chests opened (not one second of grind towards TH title)... And my monk has the highest TH title of Masters Hreasure Hunter with 5,892 chests opened.

My monk is the only character in which one MIGHT be able to argue that i have grinded because i farm Golden eggs and do a lot of 600 smite runs.
But still add up those numbers 5,892 + 1,653 + 2,757 = Grandmaster Treasure Hunter. Thats not even taking the rest of my characters in to mind. In which i would have had Grand master loooong before these 3 characters added up to 10k. And lest say i grinded 100 hours to be more than fair. All other time spent was on dungeons and vanq and such.

So there it is. Grandmaster TH with almost no grind. Only if TH was account based.
That was my last effort in trying to dumb it down enough for you to understand. If you still dont get it, go outside, grab a rock and hold it up to your monitor so it can see what i posted. That way you might be able to get an explanation of someone on your same intellectual level.

nvmu · Oct 05, 2008, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by daze

I have 12 characters one of which is PvP. so lets say i just have 11 characters. I play on my ele mainly and my ele is an elite Treasure hunter with 2,757 chests opened towards TH title (with not one second of grind involved towards TH title)... My Derv is an expert TH with 1,653 chests opened (not one second of grind towards TH title)... And my monk has the highest TH title of Masters Hreasure Hunter with 5,892 chests opened.

My monk is the only character in which one MIGHT be able to argue that i have grinded because i farm Golden eggs and do a lot of 600 smite runs.
But still add up those numbers 5,892 + 1,653 + 2,757 = Grandmaster Treasure Hunter. Thats not even taking the rest of my characters in to mind. In which i would have had Grand master loooong before these 3 characters added up to 10k. And lest say i grinded 100 hours to be more than fair. All other time spent was on dungeons and vanq and such.

So there it is. Grandmaster TH with almost no grind. Only if TH was account based.

Just out of curiosity how many hours do you have in gw 10k if not more? I play 1 main character, and have about 2650 chests give or take 100, and thats with a little bit of chest farming.

daze · Oct 05, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

im a bit under the 10k hours mark. I just really dont waste my time in any areas that aren't beneficial.

Shadowspawn X · Oct 06, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by daze

However i will one more time try to illustrate why making TH account based would reduce the grind.

You just did it again. You can't read man.

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Originally Posted by daze

That was my last effort in trying to dumb it down enough for you to understand. If you still dont get it, go outside, grab a rock and hold it up to your monitor so it can see what i posted. That way you might be able to get an explanation of someone on your same intellectual level.

You keep explaining something I'm not arguing because you can't read. I'm through with you. Have a great day.

Konig Des Todes · Oct 06, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

-reads through everything after my last post-

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Now I am just laughing my head off at this thread.